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November 13, 2007

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PaulSweeney

your audience awaits...

Philip Wilkinson

Interesting thoughts there Paul. It's true there is only so much advertising to go around so the real trick is to get the agencies to stop spending money wildly on run of site campaigns and actually tightly target their client campaigns to get some real returns.

I think we might even see a resurgence in CPA advertising (action or acquisition).

Advertising aside - I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on other revenue streams startups could pursue?

Dan Field

Have we come to expect too much for free?

Have the vast sums of money VC’s have pumped into consumer-orientated services compounded the problem?

I was thinking about this the other day… there is now a culture where Internet users expect most things for free. They want to use great services like FlickR, Twitter, Facebook, Last.fm etc. But not if they have to pay for them…

There are now so many Internet startups providing excellent services but then struggle when they come to monetize them… but then some are funded with millions of dollars – is the expectation that someone will solve the funded by advertising model?

I’m not so sure it’s going to pan out like that. For a start online advertising needs to change, drastically.

I look forward to reading your conclusions over the coming weeks!

James Penman

For me, successful start ups using the ad based model need to build advertising into the core function of the site. Moveme.com is a good example for a start up. The advertising is integral to the site's function. Google is an excellent example for an established company. The advertising helps the user find what they want. In both, the advertising (whether is be CPC or CPA) is built into the core function of the site.

Just hoping that people will click on a banner or a text ad or a video ad or (even worse) expecting an advertiser to shell out for branding isn't going to work unless you own a freak site that is experiencing freakish growth.

Just as users shape sites through the content they generate, advertising needs to follow. Advertising has to be central to the function and content of the site.

Manoj Ranaweera

Very insightful post. Yes, if we look at www.edocr.com our aim is to get to revenue generating position as quickly as possible and not necessarily to build high traffic. Both are interlinked in some respect. What we are trying to attract is marketing dollars, which is not necessarily the advertising dollars, but at the same time we have number of other revenue opportunities which ensures we do not rely on marketing and advertising dollars. It is pretty hard to guestimate what the split would be at this stage, bearing in mind we are still in public Alpha.

Peter

nice post.

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